Podcast artwork of Holly and Amy at a microphone with the name of the episode - the truth behind 6 and 7 figure claims.

How do you feel when you see people claiming to make 6 & 7 figures online?

Does it motivate you to be like them or does it leave you feeling a little bit less than?

What if we told you that the 6 & 7 figure claims are just a tactic in an unregulated industry and what you’re being sold is a story rather than a reality?

Does it still appeal to you now?

In this co-hosted episode Holly and Amy break down the different marketing tactics used when making 6 & 7 figure claims. Why people are claiming it and what it’s doing to the end user.

We break down how to spot when someone’s claims don’t quite measure up and what kind of coach you should be working with to help you discover your voice; not someone else’s.

Are you ready to get a whole lot wiser to shoddy sales tactics and to learn who’s a good fit for you and who you’re best avoiding?

Let’s get started….

Episode Transcript

I'm Holly Christie, your host. I'm a website designer and small business mentor. I have two website companies, This Demanding Life for businesses who are looking to grow with Flow and an amazing custom build website and Simply Sites for startups looking for a stellar website and website experience. I'm joined by my co-host Amy Newlands and today we are going to be tackling quite a controversial subject so buckle in and let's get started.

Welcome back Amy Newlands who is here to co-host with me and we are going to be myth busting, we are going to be talking about the truth behind six and seven figure claims and well... If you've got your own business and you've been on the internet, you will have seen these. They were very prevalent a few years ago, but they are still going on. They are coaches who are saying, I made six figures in my first year, I've made seven figures in my income. I'm so, so successful. Basically join me for coaching, take my course, do my program, buy my product, and you can be as successful as I am. In almost all cases, it's just not true. And it's designed to kind of tangle you up and get you to really buy into them without really knowing what you're buying. The idea is that they're trying to get you excited about the money when it's a little bit, I would say, style over substance. What would you say, Amy?

Oh, absolutely. A lot of the ones I've seen working from the small business products side of things. Everything looks really flashy when they're advertising and they just want you to be in awe of them. They just want you to aspire to be them. But unless you have a product at hundreds and hundreds of pounds, you've got absolutely no chance of getting that kind of figure turned around without years of hard work behind it.

Absolutely. And I think it's always really interesting to our listeners, because I follow all those service led industries. I follow those coaches and those course creators, and you have your eye on the product market. And for anyone who is listening, knows about our websites. Amy is the mastermind behind all of our shop websites as well. So I do the service led design stuff. Amy does the product led design things as well. And I would say the first thing is really looking into why people make these claims, why people make this, I'm making six figure income or I'm making seven figure income. I would say certainly from the coach's point of view, it's like an aspiration, setting an aspiration to their audience of, oh, wow, if she's earning seven figures, I could be earning seven figures as well. I think there's also that. faking it to make it sort of thing that projecting success and then you will be successful. But I mean there's projecting success and then there's just making outrageous claims about your income.

Absolutely. I mean one thing I suppose you always have to remember, no matter how amazing they look, you're only seeing the narrative they want you to see. They're not showing you what the financials look like behind. all of their claims?

Absolutely. And I think that often people who do make six figures or do make seven figures, they often do that through spending a lot of money on meta ads by investing in coaching. And usually, there's been a really big startup budget or a big kind of leveling up budget to get there. But they tell that part of the story. So, you know, you often see that rags to riches story, you know, I was divorced and I was on my knees or I quit my job or I, you know, there's often like a sob story behind it, which is designed to build on that aspiration. It's designed to say, look how well I've done. So it doesn't matter where you are, you can get there as well. But they often miss those big details about, I made this huge investment or... my husband earns a quarter of a million a year, so I didn't need to really worry about the income and things like that. It's not quite as carpentrized as it says. No, certainly not.

There's always that bit at the back of your head going, wait a minute, why can't I do it? I've been in this position. I would say I'm there now. If she can do it, I can do it. And then you have that guilt that you can't. Yeah, and then they set themselves up. Is there the missing piece of that gym? Or they're the piece that if you just invest in that coaching with them or you buy their course or you invest in their product, then you're going to have your rags to riches story. But your rags to riches story is, I wasn't doing very well, I was floundering, I was doing this, that and the other. And then I invested in this product or this service or this coach, and now I'm, you know, this mega star. And the other thing I think when they're not very honest about stuff is how much they actually spend on their advertising because how little the return on investment in advertising gets you as well. There's one well known course creator who I don't want to be sued, so I'm not going to name names. But I have it on authority from their website designer that they bank over 2 million a year, which they're very verbal about, you know, I'm a millionaire from my courses, but they spend over a million a year. meta-ads trying to get that in there.

Absolutely. It's always that I make six, seven figures a year. No, your turnover is six, seven figures a year. But like 20% of that might actually be free and clear profit. Like it's all very fancy words, but none of it actually means what they think, what they want you to think it means. Yeah, it's a bit like show us your end of year accounts, isn't it? And then we'll talk to you about what you're doing. And I think that's where we had Claire on the podcast at the end of season one about Fix Your Business Finances. And she talked about the difference between turnover and income and profits and things like that.

And it's so interesting because we can create a website for anything. We could say, oh, we want to do a sweet shop. So we create one for that. We want to do some coaching. So we create that. And so... Many industries are unregulated and even ones which are regulated, lots of people just don't bother with regulations. That's really where Amy and I will step in and we'll say, where are you accredited and what's your compliance and stuff like that to make sure that we're not contributing to that uncredited market. There's nothing out there saying that people just can't make these wildly outrageous claims. checking. Unless if you're in the UK, you're going to go on company's house and say, Oh, I'm going to see what their turnover was. But even then, you can only see like 18 months ago, you know, their last year's failed. So it's, it's pretty dicey way of marketing, isn't it? To say, you know, making this and I'm going to be the missing piece to your puzzle, isn't it?

Yeah. I have someone that I follow who's quite big in the industry and they have recently come out with a book and the book title. Now I actually really like this person for the work that they do, but the book title is called Six Figures in School Hours and I just think it is so, well first of all click baiting.

Oh absolutely.

Also I- I personally find it quite irresponsible. I don't know anyone who is making six figures in school hours specifically. You know, you drop your child off at school, you get home, you then get the phone call from the school, then they've forgotten their swim kit, they've forgotten this, they've forgotten that, can you get back there? Or one's got a puffy eye, you know, all this sort of thing. So by the time you get down to it and you do the other stuff that you have to do. then you've still you've got like five working hours in the day. So let's say you did that five days a week and you've got 25 hours. I don't know any business that's making like for with one person. It's a little bit different if you're running a team or something like that. But I don't know any business with one person that's turning over six figures in those school hours and bearing mind schools in the UK are only open to 38 weeks a year as well. So I would much rather things would just say it as it is. Business is tough and if you work hard and you get some good coaching and you invest in good things, you can make some good money from it rather than these claims.

Yeah, I think the ones that I've found claim that you can do it within school hours are all the ones that are all like market affiliates. They have everything working in the background. So they're not actually doing anything on these things. They'll have... links on their website to Amazon products or anything else kind of similar or links to send them to another coach or somewhere else and it's all just kind of tick ticking in the background which is great if you can get enough of them set up. Yeah. But again, that's never something that's actively spoken about, like the work that goes into actually setting all of these up and having them all running smoothly.

Yeah, absolutely. And I think that's a real skill set to that as well, because you're going to be an affiliate for something. And we did a podcast episode in season one of how to make money from your website. And one of those is be an affiliate to people that's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Especially if it's a product you really believe in and you really think someone's going to get the benefit from it, you've got the benefit from it yourself, off you go an affiliate for it. And that can be great. But I think that missing piece of the puzzle is you still have to drive enough traffic to your own website to be able to get people clicking that affiliate link and buying.

Oh, absolutely. And these people that are saying that like I'm getting six and seven figures, I'm only working school hours, always seem to channel it through that one main thing that they're doing. So say they're a coach for something, they're like they're making all of this money from this one thing. Whereas in reality they're not. That really, had a really dodgy practice to be fair.

Yeah, it definitely lacks transparency, doesn't it? I think it's interesting because lots of people do have different offerings. And I was mentoring someone this morning and I was saying to them about, look at the different levels you can have your package at. You want to have one model like this and another model like that. And it's absolutely fine to have. more than one model, like we have simply sites and we have this demanding life and we have those different levels. But when people direct you and they say, oh, you know, I've made all this money through my coaching, by the way, I'm an affiliate for this, this and this, you know, I run a, yeah, it can really get down to the ridiculous where it's like, oh, yes, and I'm also an affiliate for a reseller for de-terror essential oils and I do this and I do that. And you're like, so if you're making six figures from coaching, then How are you selling essential oils?

The ones where people say that they were an overnight success. They launched, and it's often part of their rags to riches story, isn't it? They launched their product or their service or whatever else. And four weeks later, they were living in the Bahamas as digital nomads. They had the world at their fingertips, and they're earning $120,000 a week. coaching.

Shall we talk about the overnight success stories? We've all seen them, especially on Insta or TikTok when that one video goes viral and suddenly the orders and coaching calls are coming out of nowhere. But what they don't tell you is they've just spent the last four years every day creating content, creating offerings. constantly driving behind it and then just flip it like oh that was one video that's all it took absolutely and i love reading the more honest accounts of people who go viral as well because they often say a that they hated the experience lots of the people who go viral don't jump off the back of it because they say oh gosh by the time you get there it's full of trolls it's this But also they'll say, oh yeah, I've been posting on this platform for eight years, or I've been doing this or I've been doing that. There is no such thing. I mean, for a start, we, you and I may know a little bit more about how the algorithms work along social media and websites and this, that and the other. And we still have to do training in it to kind of keep up to date.

Um, but there is no such thing as launching, unless like the day that Jennifer got her Instagram account, and her first photo was her and all of the friends cards, it's a selfie. There is no other way. You know, you could choose a social media platform on the day you launch boom, there you are, it just doesn't happen. It's like that. So it's often years and years in the making. And by the time that someone has got to that point, they've also like honed their offering, they know how they do it, they know who their audience is, they've usually had that kind of link into the coaching and things like that as well.

Absolutely. They've had the comments from people who they have worked with and what worked well, what hasn't worked, they've adjusted, they've carried on. And it's one of those things that no matter how much work you put in before a launch, that it's always going to be a process.

Absolutely. So, Shall we go on to the signs that it's very unlikely that the person who is trying to sell you that service or that product is actually making the kind of money that they're claiming. So your favourite number one sign Amy for this would be?

Amy- Homemade website. Amy- Absolutely. Amy- Now don't get me wrong, I'm all for making your own website if that's where you need to start, but if you're- Earning six or seven figures, there's no need for that anymore. You need to shove along a bit, let someone else who knows what they're doing do the job.

Absolutely. I would even say if you're earning four or five figures, you know, once you get into earning a few, you need to kind of get investing in your website and you'll find that investment takes you further and further. But you absolutely, it's like in the same way you wouldn't see a multi million pound business owner, like to sling around in a I don't know what 1990 Ford Fiesta, you know, someone who is making a huge amount of money will not be doing it from a homemade website because also, it takes a certain skill set or in a certain kind of aptitude to make a certain amount of money as well. You know, luck will only get you so far.

As we said before, there's working with coaches, there's knowing the industry, there's having the tools. You need to have subscriptions to get the automation. If you often, when you're earning a lot of money, that's coming through a certain amount of volume. If we want to earn, say, 50,000 pounds a year of website sales, we need to do 10 websites. So we need to handle that volume of 10 or whatever it's going to be. So anyone who's really starting to make that money is going to know that they need to make that investment in their website, plus what heavy lifting the website can do for them. So the website can handle some of the getting the contact form, scheduling appointments, all that sort of thing. So if they're dealing with volume, they're not going to be doing it from their little home. Yeah, from our homemade.

Yeah, absolutely. You know what always gets me is that we build in WordPress and we believe that is the best platform out there for websites. But we obviously don't use any of the free WordPress tools because it's kind of restrictive and counterintuitive and stuff like that. But you can often see when someone's got a free website, it will say proudly powered by WordPress or website by Wix or Squarespace or Shopify. And they're all really good signs that those are homemade websites. And there is one coach out there. who has on her website, website designed and built by me. And I'm like, oh, that is just such a bad, bad idea. So something, I've got my own contribution here that I can always tell if someone is a little bit green and a little bit inexperienced with this and they're trying to do that high value thing. And that is that they value stack their services. Now, credible coaches, mentors, businesses won't do this. And I talked about value stacking in season one of the podcast. And it's where people will just make up any old price for a product. So they make up any old price and they will put... that price next to the service. So I'm not describing this very well, so I'm going to get a bit more sit-sync. So they'll say, right, this package is made up of eight coaching sessions, value £30,000, plus two workbooks, value £500, and one of these, one of this, and complete value. And I kid you not, and this does come from the same person whose pounds worth. So she claimed that a 12-week program with her had a value of 44,000 pounds, but you could buy it today for 2,400 pounds and that could even be split into three payments of 800 pounds. Wow, thank me up.

No, right? And it's like, first of all, I would not recommend you invest 44,000 pounds or 2,500 pounds. with someone who's built their own website and proudly proclaimed it on the website. I have a podcast episode. This is great having a bank of podcast episodes. I have a podcast episode called How to Price Your Services. Essentially, we can price our services whatever we like, you know, and there's different factors, what people are prepared to pay for them and things like that. But we also... tend to set our pricing by the industry standards as well. We look at what other people are charging, what they're offering for that. And there's an integrity that comes around how we pay for stuff as well. There's a coach in America who I was made aware of by a couple of clients of mine. And this guy just talks this big, I am this, I am that. And you go on his website, it's a video of him. And yeah, it says this guy, I don't want to be sued, so I'm not going to name his name. But it says, you know, his package, his coaching is 10,000 pounds. And yet he offers coaching calls for $250. And the people who showed me this guy, they said, oh yeah, he's brilliant. He's this, that and the other. He's worth so much money because he charges $10,000. But so why is he offering coaching calls at 250? Have a look and see what actually stacks up there because I often find when people are doing that smoke and mirrors thing and this six and seven figure value on their things, that they let themselves down. And they let themselves down by maybe offering a coaching call anyone to join for $250 or they've got proudly made by me and their website footer or something like that. There's often ways that you can tell.

There's never a consistency to their pricing. I have noticed that recently with a couple of coaches that I have seen a couple of months ago they're offering coaching calls for like £450 for an hour and a half and now they're getting offered at £49. for an hour. Yeah, the logic. What happened? What happened? Indeed. The logic people use with that is the market's tough at the moment, people really know that. And so they think that if they offer something at a lower price, it will get the people in the door. So you can usually tell when people go into that panic pricing. And it's interesting because just before you said about these 450 pound calls going on 49. I was thinking about how do people work out their pricing? Well, some people in these cases just do this, stick a zero on it, pricing. And that's essentially what your people are doing. They were almost just chopping off that zero, aren't they? But it doesn't need to be that extreme. You don't have to add a zero or you don't have to chop off a zero. Look at what's fair. And ultimately, if you want someone who's going to work with you and the market is tough, and maybe they need that encouragement to get over the line, then give them an opportunity to work with you without it necessarily being a compromise. It could be that you run a workshop for them. And there's a few of you who get that opportunity. So yes, workshops are often free. Sometimes they are paid for. But there are lots of ways to be able to. do that and give people the understanding of what the benefit of working with you would be, rather than just saying, oh, I'm really expensive and so expensive equals value. And then if you sign up with me, you'll be expensive too. It just doesn't work like that. You have to have some sort of trust there. And like before you start working together, it has to be there from the beginning. So you have to find that way of kind of coaxing it. along until they get to the point where they're like, yeah, okay, I'm comfortable spending some money with you now.

Absolutely. And the thing is as well, we all have our tribe, we all have the people who we're going to be a really good fit for. And we all have the people who think, oh my god, I find that person so annoying. And you give them that opportunity to see which one you're going to fit in, whether you're going to be there, oh my god, they're annoying. or I really want to work with them. And we know about a lot of coaching groups and organizations because we sit on the edge of that industry and there's a very well known coaching duo that we're trying to get people into their membership by offering them membership for 30 days for one pound. So I signed up to them and they're great. They have loads and loads of info. You can watch the videos, you can do this, you can do that. And you also got a 20 minute call with one of the founders to go through what would be like a mini mentoring session. And that's the call which they're banking on signing you up with. Oh my goodness. I did not like that guy. I mean, nothing would have kept me in the membership. I probably would have stayed in the membership had I not had that coaching call. And I was talking to someone else who... went to one of their events, they do like a big event each year and they went to their event and said, I really didn't like the event, it wasn't set up for what I needed. So they said, oh, we're so sorry to hear that. Come back next year as our guest and give us another go. So the person went back as their guest next year, gave it another go and had an even worse experience as well. I think there's definitely a gut instinct, you're not going to be the right person opportunities there. And one of the things I would say about that coaching duo as well is that they have a really cookie cutter approach to how to get ahead in your business, what you should do. A lot of their coaching was very spreadsheet based as well and their whole kind of tag was extrapolate the data, extrapolate the data from this and basically just work with what worked last month, which of course in The small business industry, growth and stuff can be so organic as well. It's dependent on the markets, it's dependent on your product or service. There's so much more there than just extrapolate the data and recreate what was going well there as well.

Now I'm gonna say, I can usually tell when someone starts working with a coach and what kind of coach they're working with. Sometimes I can even tell which coach they're working with. And I often find that this is the case from their tone of voice changes in their posts. And that's why they change.

Yeah, the ones that start working with a coach and then instantly start sounding like that coach. That's who we can tell that they're working with.

And I used to say I could tell, so you have the different types of mailing sign up software and stuff. I use MailerLite and at the footer of it, it says, oh, it's MailerLite. And there used to be one called Infusionsoft. It's now merged with a different company. But I know that if I signed up to a newsletter, and it would say, you know, welcome, thanks for signing up, blah, Infusionsoft, I knew that I was about to be on at the end of a really aggressive sales campaign. You know, we're talking 123 emails a day with it, you gotta buy, you gotta buy, sort of thing.

And I think there is, you're right, people to go with that sounding like their coach and there's obviously that coach has projected enough success to be able to get that person to sign up. That yeah, it can be quite an interesting experience, can't it?

Absolutely. I mean, I think we've both worked with enough coaches that we've probably fallen into ourselves. Because we want to project that same image. that we forget who we actually are in the process of it.

I think I was lucky that a few years ago, I worked with a coach who really helped me to develop my own tone of voice. And I do think that, and I know that obviously you know the coach, and I think I was really blessed to have worked with her rather than have chosen someone who was just projecting this income-related goal. I really found that the coach I worked with helped me to find me and she wasn't, you know, she never did this, oh, you should post this or at that time of day, she'd say, what feels right for you? Well, and she really helped to draw me out of myself, but she seemed to really get a very good understanding of me rather than saying, here's the cookie cutter, here's the extrapolated data, just go off and post this and do that. And that's how you're going to be successful.

So. Here's your PDF with 100 pre-written prompts. Splash on.

There is that, but also I can find that if someone starts working with, there's a couple of coaches, particularly floating around LinkedIn, and they have this kind of aggressive, I don't know, this tone of voice, and I can immediately tell when someone in my network starts working with them. Because suddenly they're just like, Boom, and they often use the negative side of spinning on things. There's this great concept with marketing about creating repelling content. Lindsay Cambridge and her book, Content Fortress, she talks about it a lot and says, as much as we are looking to attract our customers, we're also looking to repel the ones who aren't right for me. And off the back of that, I wrote a blog post that was seven reasons not to work with me. And It's still my most viewed blog post and it says things like, don't work with me if you're just looking for an employee. I'm not there. I spent years honing my craft and getting to the position I am. I'm not here to be treated like an employee. And so there are really good stuff with repelling contents. And Lindsay talks about creating it in a, like, why we might not be the right fit for you or why our product might not be right for you. or whatever it is. Whereas I think these coaches who were doing this big projection will be like, the reason you're getting everything wrong in your marketing is because of this. Or the reason is that is because you haven't invested enough. No, you need my service. Or there's just something really antagonizing about it. So the final thing I would say about being on the lookout with these coaches as well is when they say you've... been through their rags to riches story, you've been exhausted by their sales page, you've been inspired by the fact that they're now earning seven figures and they're taking their family on holiday and they're doing it all in school hours and all this other stuff that they're doing, then you can be the same too. You just need to buy their PDF course for $37. The PDF course for $37.

with pre-recorded videos that haven't changed in the last five years. Absolutely, but it's also like, how are they getting rich and maintaining this lifestyle on their face? Seven dollar course. I know. Like, what kind of volume are they selling that at to try and keep up pretenses?

I know, and the thing is as well, I think if that's all they're offering at the time as well, is that if they were selling that at any kind of volume, their website would probably crash from the amount of transactions that are going through on that as well. So I think we can trust if you're seeing a very, very low value cause, that that's not gonna be quite the whole story.

So that is our whistle stop tour of our truth behind six and seven figure claims. Do you have anything to add, Amy? Anything to look out for? Anything?

I don't, I think we covered most of it.

I know, and I have to say actually, I apologize to any viewers or listeners if this feels a bit stop-start. Amy and I had this, should we do this episode, should we not do this episode? Because we appreciate that we're calling out quite a lot of people in the industry, or we're calling out quite a lot of practices in the industry. We didn't want it just to be one whole kind of bitter fest where we're bitterly talking about these practices. But realistically, a lot of our clients have fallen into these pitfalls where they come along and they say, I've asked everything in a coach and it didn't work. And now I know that my website's not working. I'm not doing this. And I don't know how to get onto that success. And the main thing that I find is that when people are drawn in through these six and seven figure claims is that they end up feeling a real failure themselves. and they've fallen for this story, this rag to riches story, and then they've gone and they've invested the money in with this coach, let's say. And then they come away in a worse state than they actually started with. Because there's only so much data you can extrapolate, there's only so much of a cookie cutter approach that you can... use.

But really, Gus said it so well in the podcast episode where he said, be intentionally you. And when I worked with a coach, it was about being me and amplifying all those parts of me that I wanted to share with the world, rather than just trying to chase someone else's model of success.

Mm-hmm. I mean, recording this feels like more of the... I wouldn't say icky, because I don't think it's icky to call out... the practices that we have done today. But with some of the people that we've worked with over the past five years, we spend more time weeding through the spaghetti that is their brain because of the situation that's been put in by these coaches.

So I feel like it's one that definitely has to be mentioned for future listeners and future customers. know that they're not the only ones that have done and dealt with it and hopefully stop a few from joining their ranks. Absolutely, so don't follow a rags to riches story and I would say also in business a rags to riches story just isn't relevant. What's relevant is where you are right now and people being able to meet you where you're at.

Absolutely and remember that having a six and seven Figure year is not the aim for every business. No. And for some people, hitting those big figures can be so stressful and there's so much more that comes with it, like having to VAT register, having to do X, Y, and Z to kind of keep up with everything.

It's not quite as simple as just saying, woohoo, look at all of the money I've made this year. There's so much more. investment that needs to take place, even if you reach six figures, let's say, without any paid for advertising, the investments in your systems, in your team, you'll at least need a VA, if not more team members, your automations. And really, the more volume you're turning over, the less time you have for yourself and your own pursuits and freedoms and things like that. So we're saying don't get sucked in. Be intentionally you. Thank you, Gus, we are using that forever. And look at creating your own story. Don't be wowed by someone else's. Absolutely. Focus on yourself, your business, where you want to be and where you want to go. That's it from us this week.

Thank you so much for listening. And do let us know if you have been duped by any rags to riches stories yourselves. whether you are a lucky escapee of seeing that kind of marketing, or if you have anything to add to our list as well of how to spot when it's not quite as authentic as the person presenting is hoping it looks. So you can do that, you can email in holly@thisdemandinglife.com or amy@thisdemandinglife.com. Check us out at This Demanding Life and simplysites.co.uk. You can find us at this podcast where we release it every single Monday morning. We will see you next week.

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Small Business Growth

I love listening to each new episode of Holly’s podcast. It feels like she has read my mind and understands the challenges I find myself up against when running my business. Her advice and insights are fantastic and I’m looking forward to hearing her future episodes. This is a great resource for any small business owner trying to establish a successful business in the online (and/or offline) world.

Fay Wallis